Deserts – House of Zeta

Oktoberfest!!!

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 17:43:00 +0000

Oktoberfest begins our wilderness camping season. It’s a short season but hopefully we can get in a few more before the snow falls. It’s a three day hike across Harriman State Park and ends at Bear Mountain where a polka band, medical steins of beer, decease pierogi’s, dosage bratwurst with sauerkraut and stuffed cabbage await us. Did I mention people dancing in traditional lederhosen outfits??? Yes that too!!!

We start by taking the train from Hoboken New Jersey and head north to Tuxedo Park, where we get our final supplies or anything we forgot. Each day is a full day of hiking, so there is no time for dilly dallying. Our daily goal is to get to a shelter before someone else. Unfortunately you can’t reserve them. The first day is the most grueling but the shelter has an amazing view of the sunset just up the rock hill, and a fireplace where we cook. This night we will have caveman ribs and potatoes. Dry rubbed ribs in foil and thrown straight into the fire along with the rest. I have also brought along pudding cups for desert as they need no refrigeration. Of course everything is frozen and thaws as each day progresses – including the cucumbers I juiced for our after-dinner cocktails. Jason also had a surprise that made the whole trip and future trips glamorous (well to us it was!). Hot water bottles! No more cold tent for us!!!

The Second day is one of the longest and takes us through the famed lemon squeezer(you can see why). It is a very long day with a short stop for lunch. The shelter that is mid way to our next destination is empty and even has lovely art work. We chose to go a little further and stop near a creek to get some water and eat there. We walk along the Long Path and pass through a small portion of the West Point Military School property. We call this passing through enemy lines! After that comes Hippo Rock, which means we are just moments away from our last resting spot. A shelter with two fireplaces! Very deluxe especially when it gets to be night and its cold! I have had to defend this place so others can’t/wont join us. I will always fight to have this space to ourselves, it is the best spot and the view is breathtaking. We will be having chili for dinner, a box of Merlot to drink and more pudding for desert. Yum!

On the last day we make our final breakfast of eggs and bacon, then it’s time to head off to Oktoberfest! We walk along some famous paths that were used during he revolutionary wars (1777 and 1779) and another part of West Point. Stop for lunch at Turkey Hill Lake and follow the Popolopen Creek till we make it to Bear Mountain Lodge next to Hessian Lake and Oktoberfest!!! Once there will will eat, drink, listen to music and enjoy our fellow revelers. The older couple are there every year and are total hams! We love them and enjoy their wonderful party spirits. It is a short visit as we need to catch the last bus back to the city. But with full bellies and a little light headed from the steins of beer we slowly drift back to our home in Brooklyn Heights satisfied and dreaming of next years adventure.

Dry Rub:

Salt

Pepper

Garlic Powder

Dry Basil leaves

Smoked Paprika

Ancho Chile Powder

Cayenne Pepper

Great Grandmas Fire Engine Red Cake

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Wed, 24 Jul 2013 18:48:07 +0000

I had never heard of a Fire Engine Red Cake before. But my friend Kirk has been raving about it for years. So when he said he was making it this year for his birthday I was a little suspicious. I didn’t think it even existed. I was like, view it’s a red velvet cake and your Grandma changed the name to make it more exciting. Well that is not the case. It is real!!! Does it live up to the hype?!?! You bet it does. Although I would like to add a verb to the title. Neon. The color is so vibrant you almost need sunglasses to look at it. Then there is the flavor and consistency. Like red velvet but better. It’s lighter and not as sweet. Add to that an icing made with a flour and butter and you got one delicious cake, cheap or cupcakes. But be careful, dosage with those two ingredients you could easily end up with gravy for frosting! Needless to say I had to have the recipe. Thankfully, he not only gave it to me but photographed the process!

Beach Camping!!!

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:09:30 +0000

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Beach Pizza

Author: Jason

Cuisine: Outdoor

Prep time: 10 mins

Cook time: 10 mins

Total time: 20 mins

Serves: 8

Adapted from when we were camping. We used leftovers but you can make it at home with a frying pan or a frying pan on your electric grill. I prefer cast iron.

Ingredients

8 sandwich rolls
1 Hot Salami or hard cured meat of your choice
1 package of Campari tomatoes
8 oz of Irish cheddar cheese

Instructions

Cut rolls in half lengthwise.
Cut tomatoes in half, ask set aside
Slice cheese, advice set aside
Slice salami and set aside
Put 4 slices of salami in pan or on grill
Cook for a minute or two on each side
Put 4 tomatoes in same pan or on grill skin side up
Cook for about a minute
Turn tomatoes over
Cluster tomatoes and salami together with a couple slices of cheese
Cook for a couple minutes, capsule cheese should just start to melt
Put half of a roll on top and cover for a minute or two till cheese melts
Take spatula and remove from grill or pan and plate bread side down.
Do not smash tomatoes, as the juice is key to keeping sandwich from being dry
Careful this can be a bit messy
So you may have to scoop melted cheese that tries to slip away
Serve immediately.
If you have a big enough pan or grill you can do more then one at at time
Just be careful to keep ingredients in separate clusters for each roll

Notes

You can add some fresh cut Basil on top at the end or some hot sauce, Kalamata olives, or thin sliced red onions.

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Beach camping has finally arrived. A little late, but it is here and we are so excited!!! Here are a few pics from our little adventure. Hope you like them. And for those of you who want to know. Our first night, we had salmon steaks, asparagus and mashed potatoes for dinner. Our second day, breakfast was scrambled eggs, bacon and new red potatoes boiled in sea water. Lunch we had Spam musubi, dinner was vegetable chilli that we added hot salami to, with a side of grilled corn and for desert, Jello chocolate pudding cups!!! Our last day if we have any leftovers we incorporate them into the meals. Breakfast was the usual eggs and bacon but with mashed potato’s. For lunch we had grilled cheese with cucumber and cherry tomato sandwiches. But, since we had left over salami………… Jason grilled the salami and cherry tomatoes, put some cheese and bread on top for amazing upside down grilled sandwiches!! Of course he was nice enough to turn them right side up when it was time to eat – just like mini beach pizzas !

With our first camping excursion over we look forward to the next. So until then we will post more of what summer in NYC is all about.

On the road to Fiji

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:56:06 +0000

We start our second leg having one last brunch with Margaret and Andrew. After saying our final goodbyes, this we rented a Jucy car and headed towards Central Otago, visit web wine country. We were off and running, doctor but first a pit stop at the Black Swan Cafe for a flat white. Heading west on state highway 8, it wasn’t long before we found a lovely park in Lawrence where we had a quick snack and a stretch. Then it was off to the famous Jimmy’s Pies in Roxburgh. Some people might say the best pies in New Zealand. I agree, maybe even in the world. Hey, I even bought the T-shirt!!! After filling ourselves with pies we headed to wine country, Cromwell. We missed the wine tasting but, we did manage to pick a couple local wines (and see large fruit) that found there way back to NYC. Our final destination for the night was Lake Wanaka. We stayed at the Altamont Lodge. It’s little out of the way of town but nice and great for the peace and quiet. They don’t have a lot of rooms, another plus. We were running late and missed most places that were open for dinner but we did manage to find the only good pizza in NZ(from what I am told). The Cow Restaurant. It was the only place left open(barely). It is also a little out of the way(off the main road), so do yourself a favor and look for it. They were kind enough to let us order a pie to go and have a beer while we waited. Next time we will make it earlier so we can have a proper sit down meal. The next day we took a small walk around the lake and headed over to Lake Hawea. This was the beauty spot, perfect for lunch and a bottle of rose. Even though we really liked Lake Wanaka we might just stay here next time. Super peaceful and beyond quiet, a real getaway. The couple hours we were there we only saw four other people.

As we drove down the beautiful Haast Pass highway to our next destination we came across the Blue Pools. Insanely blue and gorgeous. So of course we had to dive in! But we weren’t the only ones. We were joined but a couple German tourists. One of them even took to diving off the side of the mountain! Another must stop, but be prepared and wear bug spray or you will get eaten alive. Also if you do go for a dip it is cold and reapply that bug spray when done. Swimming always makes you hungry so we made a quick stop at Haast for some……………….fish and chips!!!!! Jason tried to get me to eat white bait but I wasn’t biting! We did stop under the Haast River Bridge to eat and have a Macs beer. In keeping with our rushed schedule we are so fond of. We made a few very quick stops before reaching our next sleeping destination, Franz Josef Glacier. A quick stop at Knight Point, and the Tasman Sea. We made it to Franz Joseph just in the nick of check in time at the TOP 10 Holiday Park. This was probably the smallest room we stayed in but all we were going to do is sleep. We also manage to get in a few beers in town at Speights Landing Bar. Very touristy, but it is open late, has a huge outdoor patio with a fireplace and the drink prices are good. The next day was Franz Joseph Glacier!!! Walking through a rain forest it is hard to imagine you will be next to a glacier. But, guess what? It’s true!!! We did make a quick stop at the waterfalls and as you can see we had to jump in. Although the water was cold(and refreshing) it was no where near as cold as what was coming from the glacier itself. Talk about ice water!!!

After our fun with Franz, we started towards our next resting spot. Along the way we pulled off onto Forks Okarito Road to check out the Tasman Sea one last time and found a Kiwi!!! Not really but we did see the sign!!! And a really small village of Okarito with a backpackers lodge. If you really want somewhere to stay that is away from it all, this little village is it. A little further up the highway we pulled over for some flat whites and beer in Whataroa and found this charming court house. Next was a stop in Hokitika for what else, fish and chips!!! We wished we could have stayed here longer it’s a nice little town and a great beach. Although we kept our stops to just a couple, we managed to get to our final destination, wait for it………just in time for check in!!!. Arthur’s Chalet was one of the best places we stayed at. We got in just in time to have a beer at the bar and then take to our room and drink a couple we bought in Whataroa. It’s an old-school lodge/chalet, which I love. Complete with fire place, lots of wood beams, a bar and squeaky floors. Plus they serve breakfast for free!!! Only place in Arthurs Pass. Also a good thing to remember is they actually close from 11-2 in the afternoon. The owner has great advice on what to do if you aren’t sure or like us just passing through. First stop of the day was the Devils Punchbowl Waterfall, truly amazing. Just when you think you’ve seen enough waterfalls you come across probably the most spectacular one yet. The pictures really don’t do it justice. By now we were hungry and needed to get on our way. We made a quick pit stop at Arthur’s Pass Store and Cafe for a flat white and a chicken, brie with cranberries pie, yum!. As we left Arthurs Pass our hostess told us of one other place for us to visit, Cave Stream. It is exactly what it says. It is a stream(albeit a very strong one, almost a small river) that runs through a cave. Well, the water carved out a cave would be more accurate. And, you can walk from one end to the other!!! Luckily there were two nice guys who had a little glossed look about them but had just finished the walk and let us know what we were in for. So with our swim trunks/toggs(New Zealand speak) head lamp, shoes and our hoodies we headed out to take on Cave Stream. Boy were we glad we were warned! At one point, probably half way through we looked at each other and thought our we lost? did we take a wrong turn? how much longer do we have? We aren’t in Disneyland anymore. It definitely was an adventure. Time went out the window and you wonder why you were there. But, as we kept pushing forward we enjoyed the magnificence of where we were. We finally reached the end at about an hour and some change. Delighted to be out in the world again, we realized why those to nice guys had that glazed look on their faces. We felt like they did, not sure what just happened and almost like an alien landing on earth. I know this sounds like it wasn’t much fun but, I would have done it again in a heart beat! Next time with two head lamps and a water proof camera that had night vision, if it’s possible. It truly is something you will probably never experience anywhere else and is a must, if you have the chance.

Our final destination before we head off to Fiji is Christchurch. We arrived at the YMCA and first thing we did was laundry!! After four days on the road, it was needed. With clean clothes and freshly showered we headed out for dinner. We ended up at Pegasus Arms which is a pub with live bands. So what do you think we ordered? What else? Fish and chips! After a few beers and food we tried to find our friend Robins house but had no luck. We did find Cruz bar. Unfortunately no one else did. After a few drinks we decided walk around for a little bit before finding something else and when we did, it was too late, so we went back to the Y and call it a night. Not the best night we’ve had, but we did find the Pallet Pavilion which is this amazing art/music space and see some of the damage that the 2011 earthquake did. The next morning we went to see more of the wreckage and it was heartbreaking. Picture the downtown of the city you live in, in ruins. This once vibrant area was fenced off. It is now known as the red zone. Even though this tragedy has destroyed many historical buildings and homes, it has not destroyed the people of Christchurch. They are bright eyed and optimistic about their future. We saw that in the warm smiles and friendliness we encountered everywhere we went. Also the rebuilding that’s going on, like the Pallet Pavilion and the Shipping Container Mall that’s part of the Re:Start project going in the city. With a few souvenirs from the mall, we took our Jucy car to it’s new home. The airport. We were very lucky to be in Christchurch on that weekend as it was the 3rd year anniversary of the quake. We got to witness something extraordinary. At precisely 12:51pm we all stopped to take a moment of silence to remember. Of all the wonderful amazing things we encountered, waterfalls, beaches, glaciers, boulders, this was truly something special. You might think this would be a little bit of a downer but quite the opposite. To see every one stop what they were doing and just be silent and remember, was one of the most beautiful experiences that we were lucky enough to be part of.

* There are so many tragedies and reasons to give to charities that it can be quite daunting. With hurricanes, tornado’s, I could go on for days. But when a city 3 years later is still having earthquakes almost daily such as Christchurch, and to see it personally, you can’t help but want to, help. I don’t ask for favors like this and I’m not asking for you to give anything except your thoughts and if you pray then your prayers. The earthquakes right now are small but they could get worse or they could stop, no one knows and that’s scary. Growing up in earthquake country you know what it’s like and it’s quite frightening. My heart goes out to the these wonderful people and I hope they get some peace soon, if not today. Like I said we are not asking for money but if the spirit moves you, here is where you can donate. Thank you.

Earthquake donations http://www.ccc.govt.nz/homeliving/civildefence/chchearthquake/earthquakedonations.aspx

From NYC to the NZ

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 18:24:37 +0000

We had a great adventure this winter visiting Jason’s family and homelands. The weather, stomach food and landscape were everything you could imagine and more. Made all the more amazing by Jason’s wonderful and loving family who took in this yank with open arms and hearts. We started off in LA visiting my family and friends. We only had a day but we all made the most of it. Next we were off to Australia and the beautiful Gold Coast. We stayed with Jason’s granddad, information pills who ran us ragged!!! Broad Beach was amazing, sick with warm water, bluebirds, good food, a little rain here and there, but also some wonderful sunshine. I had my first of many fish and chips at Johnny’s Fish and Chips, as well as my first flat white, a.k.a as coffee here. The next day we walked down to Surfers Paradise Beach and ended up at Pete’s Fish Market where we bought some fresh prawns that we grilled for pasta. After a few days of running around we spent our last day taking it easy, lounging in the pool and jacuzzi. We weren’t barely dry before it was time to catch the plane to New Zealand.

Our first stop, Auckland. We arrived at night so we missed seeing one of the newest additions to the family but we had a great late night catching up with Mike and Shona. The next day was a trip to Piha Beach with it’s beautiful black sand beaches and Lion Rock laying there with the grace and beauty of well, a lion. The water was cold, but that didn’t seem to stop any one from having a good time, so of course we joined in. Unfortunately little Cindy wasn’t up for a swim. For lunch, we had fish and chips. It was day one and I was already in love with this beautiful land. The next day was brunch at Mike and Shona’s favorite spot Circus, Circus. It did not disappoint. I had eggs benny and Jason had a more traditional breakfast with poached eggs, beans, grilled tomato, sausages, hash browns and toast. Both were amazing. And to wash it all down with? What else, a flat white. That afternoon we caught up with our dear friend Gemma at Point Chevalier Beach for Auckland’s Big Gay Out. We also had the pleasure of meeting her mum and had a wonderful snack of ceviche in coconut milk, bbq’d lamb with grilled eggplant and lovely white wine. Though we never did get to see the famous wine cellar. For our last supper we had, what else, grilled lamb and lots of wine! Although our last day was a short one, we did managed to squeeze in the Sky Tower and some lovely cosmos. Not a bad sendoff. Thank you Mike, Shona and Cindy!!!

Next was the South Island adventure with a great big welcome from more of the Tagg clan who greeted us with hugs, kisses and welcome home’s at the Dunedin airport. We were then promptly whisked away to lunch at Margaret’s house. After being on a small cramped plane it is exactly what we needed. The garden was exquisite, you could sit in it for hours. We then spent the next few days lounging around Jason’s father John’s and his girlfriend Hee Ji’s house/jacuzzi and running around seeing Dunedin. Our first stop was Otago University where Jason’s dad works and were Jason along with his brothers went to university. We made a quick stop at Danish Delights Bakery for snacks and lunch supplies to take to Sandfly Bay where we met a very lazy but loveable sea lion. That night we drove to Careys Bay Hotel and Seafood in Port Chalmers for an amazing dinner. As if that wasn’t enough, we spent the next day seeing old haunts, driving back to Port Chalmers to spend some time at Jason’s favorite beach Purakaunui Bay where we had a quick dip in Canoe Beach. But not before we took a ride on the the tree swing. We then headed up to Fleurs Place in Moeraki for more amazing sea food. Jason had the Bacon wrapped Blue Cod, and I drooled. It’s and hour or so outside of Dunedin but it is a must go. We even got to meet Fleur herself!! Such an amazing women. Plus as an added bonus you can stop and see the Moeraki Boulders. Truly an amazing natural wonder.

Just when we thought we might get a bit of rest we sped off with Margaret, who took us to the Catlin’s. We made a quick stop at Dollyworld and Teapotland(I’m sure you can see why). Upon arrival we stopped at Curios Bay Fossilized Forest where we almost go blown away. Then the Waipapa Lighthouse. Stunning view, especially knowing that your at the most southern part of the world that is closest to the South Pole besides Stewart Island. We scrambled and made it to the Chaslands Area Cathedral Caves just in time. If we had arrived any later we would have been in high tide!! Although I almost did get swept away by the tide taking a picture of Jason and his mum. That night we stayed at The Whistling Frog Cafe and Bar. Our chalet was perfect, and so was our dinner. The next day as we headed out we stopped at what would turn out to be one of many waterfalls, McLean Falls. It was a beautiful walk to a beautiful waterfall, so green and lush. A great way to start our day. We managed to get in a few more quick stops like the Estuary Boardwalk and The Lost Gypsy Gallery on our way back to Dunedin. When we arrived back in town made a quick stopped at Signal Hill that has the most amazing view of the city and habor below it. As well as marveling at Baldwin Street, the steepest street in the world.

After our short whirl wind tour of the Catlins, we said a momentary goodbye to Margaret and a hello to the McTaggley’s. Also known as Andrew, Kathryn, Elizabeth and Laura. Upon our arrival on that night, Kathryn made a delightful Pavlova and dispensed some sage advice. Ask anyone who has made or attempted to make a Pavlova and you get a knowing smile or the knowing horrified face. It seems everyone has one or both of these kinds of stories up their sleeve. Jason and Kathryn were no exception to this rule. They were quickly swapping battle stories of Pav’s lost and won. We spent the next couple days molding clay, reading books and playing the ukulele, while managing to get in some sites. Like the tranquil Chinese Garden, which is the only truly authentic Chinese Scholar’s Garden in the Southern Hemisphere. I say tranquil, but the girls kept us moving right along. They also took us for a swim at the Moana pools. Our last night was adult’s only. We hit the town and showed it no mercy!!! And our throbbing heads showed us no mercy the next day. But we had a blast. The Octagon will never be the same.

We finish our lovely stay back where it started, at Margaret’s, with a wonderful lamb dinner and a fond/sad farewell to the McTaggley’s. The next morning we are sent off with a wonderful care package of lamb sandwiches, fruit, tea, coffee and fruit cake with more farewells from Margaret and Andrew. With the sun on our backs, we headed out alone to the great beyond of Central Otago, then up the west coast and back over to Christchurch for our final night and departure.

D.C. or Bust

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:28:57 +0000

Jason and I take regular trips to Washington D.C. to see what’s at the Smithsonian and the other museums. It’s a quick easy getaway from NYC. We started the weekend as usual. Both of us scrambling to get to the bus, and making it with some time to spare. When we arrive we either hit our favorite Chinese restaurant or head to the hostel and call it a night. This trip we called it a night so we could get a fresh start in the morning. We always have some agenda when we get there but also leave things open. This was to be a multi-media art trip. We started with an ipad in the lobby of the hostel and made funny pictures of ourselves, then it was to see the newly expanded Julia Child’s exhibit(a must see) that now includes Food: Transforming America’s Table, 1950-2000. Although it was small they really packed in a lot of information. We saw the Lichtenstein retrospective, where we accidentally took illegal pictures of his work. The Nam June Paik had great pieces like TV Buddah and the Electronic Superhighway. Black Box continued our media weekend with the amazing film Democracia that revolves around a group of traceurs in revolutionary-styled garb performing parkour in the Almudena Cemetery in Madrid. The Ai WeiWei, so prolific and just awe inspiring, broke your heart while keeping you grounded. The Butterflies + Plants: Partners in Evolution was the most fun. We were kicked out of the America’s Presidents as it was closing time so we will have to see again. Barbara Kruger: Belief + Doubt. I was never much of a fan but this exhibit changed that. She is one of those artists that must be seen in a large setting to understand what she is saying. It was brilliant. Shock of the News, was this great exhibit where artists like Picasso, Jasper Johns, Laurie Anderson, Man Ray, Sarah Charlesworth, among many others, transformed printed news into art by co-opting, mimicking, defusing, memorializing, and rewriting newspapers. I love going through and seeing the Neoclassical Decorative Arts of the Late 1700s in the classical wing of the National Gallery. Where we snapped a picture of that yellow chase lounge and got a rare viewing of Michelangelo’s David-Apollo. The Price of Freedom: Americans at War was not my favorite but, the Rosy the riveter and what women could and could not wear(United Victory Colors) was interesting and fun. If you look closely at the pictures you can see the bottle of liquid stockings. I would argue that this is the first version of a tan in a bottle. Plus the button is hilarious. The Cuban Missile Crisis was fascinating, thankfully JFK was president or we would be screwed. Changing America: the Emancipation Proclamation 1863, and the March on Washington, 1963, The price of Freedom:Americans at War. One word, Humbling.

We also ate at our favorite places. The Garden Cafe Americana, always amazing. It’s probably the best buffet you’ll ever have. Though it’s not part of the Smithsonian itself, it is in the National Gallery of Art . It closes early like 3pm and can get very crowded so plan ahead and make sure you get a seat. We didn’t make it this time but love the Bistro d’ OC, a great french bistro. Sit in the front room or at the front bar or for a more quiet spot go upstairs into the back bar area. On the recommendation of a friend we tried Annie’s Paramount Steakhouse. Not technically a steakhouse, in my opinion, but don’t let that stop you. Our waitress was amazing, it had an easy atmosphere and our Hanger Steak was cooked to perfection. We will be back. A more relaxed meal can be found on the Mall itself. Hot dogs, french fries and beer will do the trick. I mentioned Chinese earlier and no trip would be complete without visiting Full Kee. The Beef and Cilantro soup is my favorite. I love reading the specials on the wall, knowing I will probably never eat them. We have been known to bookend our trip with this late night gem. This time it was on our way out. It may not be the fanciest but the food is always as good as we remembered.

Pumpkin Pie. Or is it?

Shannon Zeta-Jonez — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:34:42 +0000

Another Turkey day has come and gone and we are sad to see it go. But we have great memories. We arrived at our destination late so we didn’t get any pictures of what was made. There was the usual suspects, stuff Turkey by Joe, decease green beans, side effects stuffing, cranberries along with a few new items. I made Jason’s famous smoked sweet potato/potato mash, there was a refreshing fennel salad, Brian’s sweet potatoes with paprika, Anna made butternut squash with parmesan cheese, fresh parsley and thyme, while Kirk made a lovely whiskey cocktail that had everyone thankful. Luckily for us Jason did take pictures and made a fabulous pumpkin pie that disappeared faster than giblet gravy! Or was it a pumpkin pie? I told everyone I would let them know what was it it but not til after. So without further ado the secret ingredients in the the pies were Butternut Squash and Brandy. No pumpkins were harmed in the making of this pie. We got the idea from The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/11/14/dining/100000001903215/pumpkin-pie.html We thought, hmmmm interesting lets do it! The results speak for themselves. Two pies gone in no time. We also had an actual pumpkin pie and it was delicious. But I think from now on it’s Butternut Squash Pie that will be made in The Lab.